Thread 'Can a legacy HD4850 GPU and a HD5570 GPU coexist?'
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Send message Joined: 21 Jun 13 Posts: 13 
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GIGABYTE EP45-UD3P; Rev 1.1 E8400:[email protected] / Stock cooler MSI MSI R4850-2D512-OC [PCIex16] From GPU Caps viewer: GPU 1: ATI Radeon HD 4850 Unknown version - Catalyst 12.1 () OpenGL 3.3 (ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series with 218 ext.) OpenCL 1.0, ATI RV770 compute units:10@640MHz [Platform] OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP (851.4) FULL_PROFILE [Device] OpenCL 1.0 AMD-APP (851.4) ATI Radeon HD 5570 1GB Jaguar 10-M01 [PCIex8] From GPU Caps viewer: GPU 2: ATI Radeon HD 5570 Unknown version - Catalyst 12.1 () OpenGL 3.3 (ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series with 218 ext.) OpenCL 1.0, ATI RV770 compute units:10@640MHz [Platform] OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP (851.4) FULL_PROFILE [Device] OpenCL 1.0 AMD-APP (851.4) Windows XP 32-bit build 2600 [Service Pack 3] Catalyst 12.1 package C:\Program Files\ATI\CIM\Reports\Report.xml CCC 2011.1205.2146.38999 AMD Catalyst Install Manager: 3.0.859.0 AMD Display Driver: 8.930.0.0000 HDMI Audio Driver: 5.18.0.5511 AMD APP SDK Runtime: 2.6.831.4 BOINC Manager 7.0.64 [x86] wxWidgets version: 2.8.10 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.64 for windows_intelx86 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, coproc_debug, unparsed_xml 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | Data directory: I:\My Software\BOINC 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | Running under account xxxxxxx 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz [Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10] 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 nx lm vmx smx tm2 pbe 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00) 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | Memory: 3.00 GB physical, 7.71 GB virtual 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | Disk: 79.23 GB total, 54.75 GB free 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | Local time is UTC -4 hours 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | VirtualBox version: 4.2.10 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | CAL: ATI GPU 0 (ignored by config): ATI Radeon HD 4700/4800 (RV740/RV770) (CAL version 1.4.1664, 512MB, 503MB available, 2048 GFLOPS peak) 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | CAL: ATI GPU 1: ATI Radeon HD 5500/5600 series (Redwood) (CAL version 1.4.1664, 1024MB, 1012MB available, 1040 GFLOPS peak) 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | No NVIDIA library found 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | clGetPlatformIDs() failed to return any OpenCL platforms 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | Config: ignoring AMD/ATI GPU 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Catalyst Install Manager Installation Report 06/22/13 20:32:17 Hardware information Name AMD Radeon Graphics Processor Manufacturer Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Device ID 0x9442 Vendor ID 0x1002 Class Code 0x030000 Revision ID 0x00 Subsystem ID 0x1530 Subsystem vendor ID 0x1462 Catalyst Control CenterFinal Status: Version of Item: 2011.1205.2146.38999 Size: 150 Mbytes AMD Display DriverFinal Status: Version of Item: 8.930.0.0000 Size: 40 Mbytes HDMI Audio DriverFinal Status: Version of Item: 5.18.0.5511 Size: 1 Mbytes Packages for install AMD APP SDK DeveloperFinal Status: Success Version of Item: 2.6.831.4 Size: 90 Mbytes AMD APP SDK RuntimeFinal Status: Success Version of Item: 2.6.831.4 Size: 90 Mbytes AMD APP ProfilerFinal Status: Success Version of Item: 2.4 Size: 80 Mbytes AMD APP KernelAnalyzerFinal Status: Success Version of Item: 1.10 Size: 30 Mbytes ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other detected devices Manufacturer Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Device ID 0xaa30 Vendor ID 0x1002 Class Code 0x040300 Revision ID 0x00 Subsystem ID 0xaa30 Subsystem vendor ID 0x1462 AMD Radeon Graphics Processor Manufacturer Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Device ID 0x68d9 Vendor ID 0x1002 Class Code 0x030000 Revision ID 0x00 Subsystem ID 0x6872 Subsystem vendor ID 0x103c Manufacturer Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Device ID 0xaa60 Vendor ID 0x1002 Class Code 0x040300 Revision ID 0x00 Subsystem ID 0xaa60 Subsystem vendor ID 0x103c ------------------------------------------------------------------------- <cc_config> <log_flags> <coproc_debug>1</coproc_debug> <gui_rpc_debug>0</gui_rpc_debug> <unparsed_xml>1</unparsed_xml> </log_flags> <options> <allow_multiple_clients>0</allow_multiple_clients> <ignore_ati_dev>0</ignore_ati_dev> </options> </cc_config> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've reviewed the FAQs and I have some questions: Could you explain the option "<allow_multiple_clients>0</allow_multiple_clients>"? The BOINC client runs on my local machine, that I understand. According to the log file, BOINC detects both GPUs but doesn't use them. I realize I'm telling BOINC not to use the 1st one. This line in the log file concerns me: clGetPlatformIDs() failed to return any OpenCL platforms AMD says the all GPUs have to use the same drivers. This makes it hard for my legacy card HD4850 and the HD5570 to coexist. AMD/ATI could have used a better directory structure. AMD suggests running the CCC 13.1. But if I do, the installer won't load the APP runtime. Has anyone found a way to load separate drivers for each GPU? Do I need a client for each CPU, GPU? Do I need to setup directories or will the BOINC Manager do this for me? Thanks in advance. ID: 49685 ·  |
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Send message Joined: 23 Apr 07 Posts: 1112 
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GIGABYTE EP45-UD3P; Rev 1.1 Boinc concists of the Boinc client, Boinc Manager (the GUI) and the Boinctray (the idle detection program), normally you can only run one client, the <allow_multiple_clients>0</allow_multiple_clients> cc_config option allows you to run extra clients, which allows you to configure them differently, say running a pre-Fermi GPU on one and a post-Fermi GPU on the other. According to the log file, BOINC detects both GPUs but doesn't use them. I realize I'm telling BOINC not to use the 1st one. AMD/ATI OpenCL support for XP has been deprecated, the last driver with OpenCL support was Cat 12.1, running later drivers than that either causes OpenCL not to be detected, or in some cases causes the host to Blue screen: ATI Driver Version Cheat Sheet I'd say that there is a problem with Boinc detecting the correct OpenCL platforms and is giving up, does GPUCapsVieiwer detect any other OpenCL Platforms or devices? Claggy ID: 49688 · |
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Send message Joined: 21 Jun 13 Posts: 13
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Claggy, Thanks for your response! From GPU Caps viewer [GPU tab]: GPU 1: ATI Radeon HD 4850 Unknown version - Catalyst 12.1 () OpenGL 3.3 (ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series with 218 ext.) OpenCL 1.0, ATI RV770 compute units:10@640MHz GPU 2: ATI Radeon HD 5570 Unknown version - Catalyst 12.1 () OpenGL 3.3 (ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series with 218 ext.) << Something fishy here! OpenCL 1.0, ATI RV770 compute units:10@640MHz From GPU Caps viewer [Open_CL tab]: CL Platform_Version: OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP (851.4) CL Platform_Profile: FULL_PROFILE Number of CL Devices: 3 CL_Device_Name: 1: ATI RV770 CL_Device_Version: OpenCL 1.0 AMD-APP (851.4) CL_Device_Driver_Version: CAL 1.4.1664 CL_Device_Global_mem.: 256MB (Cache: 0KB) CL_Device_Name: 1: Redwood CL_Device_Version: OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP (851.4): [This is different now or I misread it the 1st time.] CL_Device_Driver_Version: CAL 1.4.1664 CL_Device_Global_mem.: 512MB (Cache: 0KB) CL_Device_Name: 3:Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @3.00GHz CL_Device_Version: OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP (851.4) CL_Device_Driver_Version: 2.0 If BOINC detects one of my GPUs, will it automatically create the data directories needed? Should I add anything to the cc_config to aid in debugging? Thanks ID: 49689 · |
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Send message Joined: 23 Apr 07 Posts: 1112
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Claggy, Thanks for your response! I wouldn't trust the GPU Tab to display the correct info for the 2nd GPU, on my i7-2600K/GTX460/HD7770: GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 9.18.13.1422 (3-14-2013), R314.22 (branch: r313_00-263) OpenGL 4.3 (GeForce GTX 460/PCIe/SSE2 with 296 ext.) OpenCL 1.1, GeForce GTX 460 compute units:7@1600MHz GPU 2: AMD Radeon HD 7770 9.18.13.1422 (3-14-2013) - GL:nvoglv64 OpenGL 4.3 (GeForce GTX 460/PCIe/SSE2 with 296 ext.) OpenCL 1.1, GeForce GTX 460 compute units:7@1600MHz Claggy ID: 49690 · |
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Send message Joined: 23 Apr 07 Posts: 1112
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I'd be very tempted to uninstall Cat 12.1, make sure all the files are removed, and reinstall it, Any idea what the minimum driver for a HD 5570 is? Because the Catalyst Uninstaller doesn't remove the files it installed in the System32 directory you should either remove them manually, or use the Atiman uninstaller, AMD have supplied an uninstall utility, but it only for Windows 7: Dlls from Catalyst driver left behind after uninstallation Atiman Uninstaller Note: I've never used the Atiman Uninstaller, TBar recommended it recently to Swordfish to fix his Windows 8 host: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72088 Claggy ID: 49691 · |
 Jord Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 15585 
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You can always use Driver Sweeper. It's Windows XP compatible: http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4266-driver-sweeper.html ID: 49697 · |
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Send message Joined: 21 Jun 13 Posts: 13
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By default the Catalyst 12.1 package loads the following packages: CCC 2011.1205.2146.38999 AMD Catalyst Install Manager: 3.0.859.0 AMD Display Driver: 8.930.0.0000 HDMI Audio Driver: 5.18.0.5511 AMD APP SDK version: 10.0.851.4 <<< Out of sequence? So I uninstalled the SDK and installed AMD APP SDK Runtime: 2.6.831.4 [2.6 SDK] Prior to that, I uninstalled everything in windows and restarted in safe mode. Then I ran Driver Fusion (Disksweeper) and then CCleaner. Then I restarted XP and installed the drivers. When I uninstalled the AMD APP SDK: 10.0.851.4, there was no way to determine what to clean. So I just installed the new SDK 2.6. Now I guess I will have to start from scratch, clean everything and intstall the Catalyst 12.1 package again. I don't how to determine the minimum driver the HD5570 can use. ID: 49703 · |
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Jord Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 15585
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I don't how to determine the minimum driver the HD5570 can use. The HD5570 was released in October 2009. So any driver you have is good enough. Your only hiatus is that Catalysts 12.2 and further do not have OpenCL drivers under Windows XP. You NEED a newer Windows for that. Or use at maximum 12.1 ID: 49704 · |
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Send message Joined: 21 Jun 13 Posts: 13
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>The HD5570 was released in October 2009. So any driver you have is good enough. Understood. I just noticed that the SDK 2.6 is installed under C:\AMD\Support\streamsdk_2-6-RC3_win732. I wish I knew why the SDK that came with the Catalyst 12.1 package has a version of 10.0.851.4. If BOINC detects one of my GPUs correctly, will it automatically start doing work? I have it enabled in the BOINC Manager options. 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | DistrRTgen | URL http://boinc.freerainbowtables.com/distrrtgen/; Computer ID xxx; resource share 33 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | Einstein@Home | URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID xxx; resource share 33 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | LHC@home 1.0 | URL http://lhcathomeclassic.cern.ch/sixtrack/; Computer ID xxx; resource share 100 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | Milkyway@Home | URL http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/; Computer ID xxx; resource share 0 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | malariacontrol.net | URL http://www.malariacontrol.net/; Computer ID xxx; resource share 100 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID xxx; resource share 100 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | DistrRTgen | General prefs: from DistrRTgen (last modified 06-Jun-2013 05:51:46) 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | DistrRTgen | Computer location: home 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | General prefs: using separate prefs for home 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | Reading preferences override file 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | Preferences: 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | max memory usage when active: 1535.12MB 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 2302.67MB 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | max disk usage: 10.00GB 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager) 6/22/2013 8:51:58 PM | | Not using a proxy Thanks. ID: 49705 · |
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Send message Joined: 21 Jun 13 Posts: 13
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I just shut down the client and restarted BOINC. I downloaded work from DistrRTgen! 6/23/2013 6:19:38 PM | DistrRTgen | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 6/23/2013 6:19:38 PM | DistrRTgen | Requesting new tasks for ATI 6/23/2013 6:19:40 PM | DistrRTgen | Scheduler request completed: got 12 new tasks 6/23/2013 6:19:43 PM | DistrRTgen | Started download of distrrtgen_3.52_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_101.exe 6/23/2013 6:19:43 PM | DistrRTgen | Started download of kernel_mysqlsha1_3.52_x86_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_101.cl 6/23/2013 6:19:45 PM | DistrRTgen | Finished download of distrrtgen_3.52_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_101.exe 6/23/2013 6:19:45 PM | DistrRTgen | Finished download of kernel_mysqlsha1_3.52_x86_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_101.cl 6/23/2013 6:19:45 PM | DistrRTgen | Started download of kernel_md5_3.52_x86_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_101.cl 6/23/2013 6:19:45 PM | DistrRTgen | Started download of kernel_ntlm_3.52_x86_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_101.cl 6/23/2013 6:19:46 PM | DistrRTgen | Finished download of kernel_md5_3.52_x86_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_101.cl 6/23/2013 6:19:46 PM | DistrRTgen | Finished download of kernel_ntlm_3.52_x86_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_101.cl 6/23/2013 6:19:46 PM | DistrRTgen | Started download of charset.txt 6/23/2013 6:19:47 PM | DistrRTgen | Finished download of charset.txt 6/23/2013 6:19:47 PM | DistrRTgen | [coproc] Assigning ATI instance 0 to 22300911 mysqlsha1_mixalpha-numeric#1-9_32_755000x250000 - 18730000000_1 6/23/2013 6:19:47 PM | DistrRTgen | Starting task 22300911 mysqlsha1_mixalpha-numeric#1-9_32_755000x250000 - 18730000000_1 using distrrtgen version 352 (opencl_ati_101) in slot 2 6/23/2013 6:20:47 PM | DistrRTgen | [coproc] ATI instance 0: confirming for 22300911 mysqlsha1_mixalpha-numeric#1-9_32_755000x250000 - 18730000000_1 6/23/2013 6:22:48 PM | DistrRTgen | [coproc] ATI instance 0: confirming for 22300911 mysqlsha1_mixalpha-numeric#1-9_32_755000x250000 - 18730000000_1 6/23/2013 6:23:48 PM | DistrRTgen | [coproc] ATI instance 0: confirming for 22300911 mysqlsha1_mixalpha-numeric#1-9_32_755000x250000 - 18730000000_1 6/23/2013 6:24:49 PM | DistrRTgen | [coproc] ATI instance 0: confirming for 22300911 mysqlsha1_mixalpha-numeric#1-9_32_755000x250000 - 18730000000_1 Wow! This is exciting. Thanks for your help and patience everyone! ID: 49706 · |
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