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Message 116265 - Posted: 22 Jun 2025, 19:26:54 UTC - in response to Message 116264.  

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Message 116268 - Posted: 23 Jun 2025, 3:59:06 UTC - in response to Message 116263.  

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Because the socialist state of California sounds good to you? Or terrorists throwing Molotov cocktails from bridges onto police cars is a normality in this world and should be applauded or falls under Freedom of Speech? Have you seen the images of chaos and destruction caused by the rioters?

Chaos and destruction??? In California 2025? Are you serious?
Were you around for the Rodney King riots? Now, that was chaos and destruction.
Clearly not on the same scale but probably would count as, "Chaos and destruction" by UK standards!

The events in California definitely count as "chaos and destruction" by Canadian standards as well, but that is irrelevant. There are significant differences between Canadian and UK social and legal standards which simply do not apply anywhere in the USA. For example, in Canada, the rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few; in the US, it seems as that is turned around. Also, in Canada, one cannot say whatever one wishes -- if a "reasonable person could reasonably conclude" that some particular statement might induce another person to commit a hate crime, then the person making that statement can be prosecuted for hate speech; that is not possible under US law.

Very close to Incitement to Violence (or riot or insurrection) which are illegal on this side of the border.
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Message 116291 - Posted: 30 Jun 2025, 12:53:31 UTC

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Message 116294 - Posted: 30 Jun 2025, 13:56:21 UTC - in response to Message 116291.  

Even though I myself am a harsh critic of the Israeli government I thought they should have pulled the feed on that one.
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Message 116823 - Posted: 8 Sep 2025, 11:57:47 UTC
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Yo England, what the frick is happening over there?

Calling someone a muppet will cause them alarm and distress and is enough for 4 coppers to go arrest the person who said the damning word? Really?
https://x.com/Basil_TGMD/status/1964954225642983562
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Message 116828 - Posted: 8 Sep 2025, 23:40:00 UTC

You can't make it up for comedy. The UK.

"Why am I in cuffs because of something he shared, then I shared?"

"Because someone has been caused anxiety based upon your social media post. That's why you've been arrested."


https://x.com/wideawake_media/status/1964947054662127882
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Message 116829 - Posted: 9 Sep 2025, 8:17:37 UTC - in response to Message 116823.  

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Yo England, what the frick is happening over there?

Calling someone a muppet will cause them alarm and distress and is enough for 4 coppers to go arrest the person who said the damning word? Really?
https://x.com/Basil_TGMD/status/1964954225642983562
I think you have it wrong.

The crime is insulting muppets.
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Message 116830 - Posted: 9 Sep 2025, 8:35:25 UTC - in response to Message 116829.  

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Message 116831 - Posted: 9 Sep 2025, 14:02:53 UTC - in response to Message 116830.  

These ones, then. 🤬
https://x.com/vrijehuisvrouw/status/1965312500536410620

Oh, a good one! Definitely an insult / thought crime.🚔
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Message 116832 - Posted: 9 Sep 2025, 15:12:20 UTC

It's getting worse. You're actively being censored.
UK Is Banning Websites Now
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Message 116833 - Posted: 9 Sep 2025, 16:09:57 UTC - in response to Message 116832.  

YouTube video. Hardly an authorative source. I don't go to YouTube or X for news indeed since Musk bought it I don't look at the latter at all even to see why people are posting links to it. I did look at the OfCom site though. https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safety/illegal-and-harmful-content/statement-protecting-people-from-illegal-harms-online
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Message 116834 - Posted: 9 Sep 2025, 17:00:13 UTC - in response to Message 116833.  

The YT video is talking about the Ofcom website and its rather ill demands that websites all over the world conform to their age restrictions or be blocked to the UK public.

Who decided that you can't think for yourself and decide what is harmful content? Why should the government decide for you what is harmful content? Think about that. That's called censorship.

As for not trusting news sites, you trust the BBC to inform you correctly on all world news?
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Message 116835 - Posted: 10 Sep 2025, 0:33:10 UTC

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Message 116837 - Posted: 10 Sep 2025, 8:06:00 UTC - in response to Message 116834.  

As for not trusting news sites, you trust the BBC to inform you correctly on all world news?
I trust the BBC more than some other sources but I don't rely just on the BBC and get my news from a range of sources, just not YouTube or X. My biggest issue with BBC is not the accuracy of what they report but the things they don't report that I have to go to other sources for.

The biggest problem I see with age verification is that many sites do this with credit cards and I wouldn't trust sites I was not actually buying services from with that information. I would be interested to see a breakdown of what sites are affected and why they are blocked. I actually believe that blocking sites that encourage suicide and give vulnerable children detailed instructions as to how to carry it out should be blocked.

I would like to see openness about the sites blocked but in principle am not against all censorship.
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Message 116891 - Posted: 18 Sep 2025, 14:08:06 UTC

An American woman living in the UK gets a visit by a policeman, because she posted something on Facebook that someone got upset over, and he asks if she can apologize to that person. Which she refuses because free speech, she's done nothing wrong. He'll then tell her that she'll be invited for an interview at the police station to explain her post. 🤡🤡

https://x.com/stillgray/status/1968620337160970525
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Message 116892 - Posted: 18 Sep 2025, 16:29:31 UTC - in response to Message 116891.  

https://x.com/SpeechUnion/status/1968419871269511561

An American cancer patient and Trump supporter was confronted by British police and told to apologise for her online posts or face an investigation.

Deborah Anderson, a mother of two, was visited at her home in June by an officer from Thames Valley Police. He told her someone had lodged a complaint about her social media posts. She told him she was an American citizen and a member of the Free Speech Union and he should be investigating burglaries and rapes, not hurty words on social media.

Chillingly, he told her he was there to get her to apologise to the person who was offended by her posts. If she refused, she’d be questioned down at the station.

What was Deborah’s supposed crime? The policeman didn’t tell her. Was it her passionate support of President Trump and the MAGA movement on her Facebook and X pages?

To make it worse, Deborah is in the midst of cancer treatment, including chemotherapy. She ought to be have been convalescing. Instead, she was harassed for her tweets.

The FSU took on her case and, as a result, the police have now dropped their investigation. But they still haven’t told Deborah which of her posts got her into trouble, claiming they’ve accidentally deleted the record of the complaint.

Thames Valley Police are responsible for guarding President Trump this week. What would he make of the fact that those same officers are visiting the homes of his supporters – including US citizens – and threatening them with arrest.
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Message 116948 - Posted: 26 Sep 2025, 12:16:30 UTC

You what? 😱

https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1971524348298301599
Keir Starmer: "You will not be able to work without a digital ID in the UK"

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-digital-id-scheme-to-be-rolled-out-across-uk
"A new digital ID scheme will help combat illegal working while making it easier for the vast majority of people to use vital government services. Digital ID will be mandatory for Right to Work checks by the end of the Parliament."
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Message 116949 - Posted: 26 Sep 2025, 18:32:12 UTC - in response to Message 116948.  

Most of Europe has ID cards which we don't at the moment. That said, our current government is probably not capable of getting this organised by the end of this parliament.
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Message 116950 - Posted: 26 Sep 2025, 18:49:05 UTC - in response to Message 116949.  
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Most of Europe has ID cards which we don't at the moment. That said, our current government is probably not capable of getting this organised by the end of this parliament.
Yes, I have had digital ID card (Bank-ID), for 15 years or more now. It's not a requirement to have, but it makes it very easy to safely ID yourself with government, or private services. I really like it.
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Message 116951 - Posted: 26 Sep 2025, 21:01:47 UTC - in response to Message 116950.  

Yes, I have had digital ID card (Bank-ID), for 15 years or more now. It's not a requirement to have, but it makes it very easy to safely ID yourself with government, or private services. I really like it.
Good to hear that. This will be compulsory or that is what they are saying. I am waiting till after the consultation when there is more detail before deciding whether I think it a good idea or not.
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